Ep 344 Spirit Babies, Signs, and Surrender with Susan Singer
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I’m joined once again by Susan Singer (@iamsusansinger), fertility yoga teacher, spirit baby advocate, and co-founder of Gals Off The Grid. Susan first appeared on the podcast back in episode 3, where she shared her fertility journey. Today, we revisit that path and explore the remarkable unfolding of motherhood, intuition, and spiritual alignment that followed.
Susan shares how she went from multiple rounds of IVF to a natural conception, and the moment Michelle felt her pregnancy through pulse diagnosis before any test confirmed it. We dive deep into the signs, synchronicities, and spiritual guidance that supported her journey, including a powerful numerological moment in the delivery room that tied back to a PIN code she created 15 years prior.
Now a mom and wellness entrepreneur, Susan reflects on how her connection to community, the land, and her own inner wisdom helped shape Gals Off The Grid, a nature-inspired membership and retreat space for soul-led women seeking to reconnect with the rhythms of Mother Earth and feminine energy.
This episode is a beautiful reminder that the fertility journey is more than just the physical process it's a soul path rich with signs, surrender, and divine timing.
Key Takeaways:
Fertility journeys often unfold in unexpected, divinely timed ways.
Guest Bio:
Susan Singer (@iamsusansinger) is a visionary storyteller, certified yoga teacher, and co-host of the Gals Off The Grid Podcast. With over 15 years of experience across the entertainment and wellness industries, she blends creativity with ancient wisdom to help women reconnect with their voice, purpose, and feminine energy. Susan leads soul-nourishing retreats, moon circles, and healing gatherings rooted in nature, intuition, and ancestral traditions. Her work honours the sacred wisdom of those who came before while empowering women to reclaim their power and live from a place of grounded truth and spiritual alignment.
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Michelle Oravitz: welcome back to the podcast, Susan. I'm so excited to have you here. Finally.
I am so excited to be here. It's been such a journey.
Yes, so of course I've had Susan on the podcast episode three, so this is like way back when. I think it was like 2019, where. We connected, was it 2018? Wow. 2018. That's insane. And when we first connected, and we were fertility buddies, colleagues Susan [00:03:00] Singer was doing a fertility yoga, phenomenal at it and went through her journey and I'm so excited to have you back.
So you've completely revamped change, morphed evolved and I'm just really, really excited to have you.
Susan Singer: Yay. I am too. I couldn't wait for us to get back here together. And we started our journeys together when I was doing, when I was going through my own fertility journey, which I'll, you know, talk a little bit about that since we were on episode three and now you have over 300 episodes. It's. it's beyond awesome to see you grow, to see where I am at and it's just, it's so fun.
So I was a fertility yoga teacher for many years and. Still, I can still consider myself one as well because I still teach yoga. It's still the foundation of who I am, and I [00:04:00] started teach. I was a yoga teacher for many, many years, and then when I started going through my fertility journey, I brought fertility yoga into my life and how to use that.
To help me get pregnant and just going, I always said that you're part of a community you don't necessarily wanna be a part of, and it's the, the heartache and the constant every day. That's the only thing on your mind. And to be able to bring a sense of spirituality, connection to yourself, to source, I felt like that really helped me and guided me on my journey.
My journey was. I think it would, it started like back in 2017 when I was really like, okay, I'm ready to get pregnant. I was in my mid thirties and I remember one time getting my Vedic astrology chart read, and it was saying that I was moving into my fertility moon phase during 2017 and I'm like, oh, great, I'm gonna get pregnant.
This is wonderful. I got married in that because it's all, you [00:05:00] know, Venus is all about relationships and love and family and. Clearly it didn't happen and I started going down painful rabbit hole of trying to get pregnant and realizing my big, so my big thing was the quality of my eggs. And it was really difficult to figure out what direction to go into with. turn, unfortunately, this whole industry, as you're aware, it's like it turns into it's just another business and you just feel like you're in a factory and you sit in the waiting rooms with hundreds of other women getting our blood work done, and it just feels so. Unfortunate and yucky and it's like, I don't wanna be here.
Why is this happening to me? And you know, why does that person get pregnant all the time? And you know, I'm healthier than they are. Or this crack addict has six kids and this isn't happening for me. And so I definitely had my ups and downs and I really felt that fertility, yoga, the [00:06:00] yoga portion of it, really helped me stay in rhythm of, seeing myself in a higher space and maybe not so much understanding why is this happening to me, but accepting that this is part of my journey and I really wanted to share my journey. So when Michelle and I actually started our podcast together
Michelle Oravitz: Yes.
Susan Singer: called Goddess Mama Fertility podcast.
And I really spoke about my journey and had experts on the show and all that. So I went through round of IVF and. You know, it's your first one, you're like, this is totally working for me. And then, you know, I got I think it was 10, 10 eggs and I think I ended up getting five embryos and, you know, you're hoping, and then the call comes two days after and then clearly it didn't work. I fell into a space of you know, my husband and I were both like, this is gonna work. You know, you go into like this, this, instead of the feminine energy, you're [00:07:00] going into this masculine energy and you're, now, you're in competition. And I'm gonna do the IVF again, even though I was aware that you needed to calm your body first.
And why didn't this happen? Like, give myself 90 days, let things re let myself cells change. And, but no, I did it right away. Second round didn't work. And then it was a process of, now what do I do? Like, am I gonna do this again? I, am I gonna go a different route? And I remember during this time I found the book Spirit Babies and I remember I had someone who was a spirit baby expert on the podcast.
And it just completely changed so much of my on understanding that. I know because she did, she did a session on me that I definitely have. A spirit baby around me. And she was actually explaining what she looked like, how she had brown straight hair and she was very active and she was into art and she was [00:08:00] running around in the backyard and she was just saying all this, these things about her. And I just felt different. Like it wasn't just so much about what was going on in my body, it was like the connection of the timing and so much that had to go around it. So I was able to sit in that energy and help soothe myself and my nervous system and, just really, and also the work that you were doing, I really felt that acupuncture really helped a lot.
And I, when was it? Was it a year later? I'm not sure. How much longer, but I did another round and then I remember I came back and I had a session with you and you were the first person to tell me that you're pregnant because you can feel it on my wrist. Like my heartbeat was different. I remember that.
Michelle Oravitz: Wow.
Susan Singer: And it was just, it was so profound because I feel like I took out my ego and myself. was able to maybe connect with her, like connect with my spirit baby. And when was she [00:09:00] ready to come in so I can keep talking? 'cause I have a great
Michelle Oravitz: no, keep talking. I,
I love all of this
and I'm sure the listeners too.
Susan Singer: Yeah, so I, I ended up, um, so I found out I was pregnant by you, and then I was waiting, I think 10 days to get the real call.
And I remember I was at, I was in Miami, I was at a yoga class and I remember telling the yoga class, like, I'm after the, I'm supposed to find out, like right after this class. And I was like freaking out. And then I was in the car and I got the call and I found out I was pregnant. And just, know, I really wanted to get home because I was living on the water then, and I wanted to get the call and, and I wanted the dolphins just to come jumping outta the water.
And I had this whole plan, but instead I was in a parking garage, but it was okay. And I found that I was pregnant and I need to share this such a powerful story. So when I was young, I was probably back like 10, 15 years ago when I [00:10:00] opened up a bank account and. You know when you have to put in a code, like a new code for your pin, you have to put in a pin. Well, I just randomly picked this number, just randomly picked a four digit number, and I did that back in like 2007, so, you know, never thinking about it. Then it was always like my locker code and whatever, cut to. I'm in the delivery room and I actually, my due date was pushed up two weeks because the last time I went into get a, get a test and an ultrasound, my blood pressure was really high.
And they're like, yeah, we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to, you're having this baby tonight. And I knew
Michelle Oravitz: Hmm.
Susan Singer: a full, they had to what was the word? They have to induce me
Michelle Oravitz: Induced. Yeah.
Susan Singer: It was a full moon. And I'm like, clearly she wants to be born on a full moon. And it was two, it was two weeks before my due date.
And I looked, um, and I had my beautiful daughter and I was, I was there with her and I looked [00:11:00] at, in the, in the hospital, I looked at the board where it said her name and her weight and the date she was born. And it wasn't spelled out. Instead it was just the numbers. And I looked at it, I'm like, God. 1, 1, 1 3. That was the code that I, that was my pin that I put in
Michelle Oravitz: Wow.
Susan Singer: years ago. It randomly came to me, and now here I am, like I can tear up
Michelle Oravitz: That's insane. I never knew this.
Susan Singer: Yeah, and I'm just
Michelle Oravitz: Oh my god.
Susan Singer: is what I'm talking about when I say that. Like everything happens in divine timing.
Michelle Oravitz: Oh my God, I love that.
Susan Singer: It's just it's like your. You came here for a reason. Your spirit, your soul came here for a reason. You, you, you already have your blueprint. Everything is already mapped out.
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: you are not getting pregnant because of environmental or because of your eggs or [00:12:00] because of this or that. It's, everything is just, this is your path.
This is your journey. And when I saw that and I got pregnant at 40, so
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: had her when I, when I was 40, when I turned 41.
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: And it was just like, and she has straight brown hair. She is a ball
Michelle Oravitz: I keep getting the chills by the way. I'm just sitting here with a bunch of chills.
Susan Singer: art every like, it's just oh my God. And like this little thing is, was like she was waiting for me. And it doesn't matter how she entered into this world, it doesn't, none of that matters. It's your, if you have, if your spirit baby is there, like she or he is coming, like when the timing and, and honestly like, I'm not gonna, not gonna get into it, but there's even no thing timing doesn't even exist.
It's
Michelle Oravitz: Right.
Susan Singer: this is your path. So I just, November 13th 1, [00:13:00] 1, 1 3, like that
Michelle Oravitz: Wow.
Susan Singer: most random number and it was like, I truly believe it. Like it was, she's a gift and. And she didn't, you know, the second round of IVF didn't work and then found out we were moving to to Tennessee, and when we found out we were moving that next month, I found out I was pregnant.
Like she wanted to be a country girl. She didn't wanna
Michelle Oravitz: I love it. I love that. I just love that so much. I think that, first of all, I, I believe that the universe is math. Mathematical, there's so many mathematical, things, you know, the, what is it called? The sequence, the golden ratio and the, what is it? The something sequence.
Susan Singer: I don't
Michelle Oravitz: You know what I'm talking about?
Right? it's 1, 1, 2, 3. It's like there's a certain sequence
Susan Singer: yes. I don't
Michelle Oravitz: I for.
Susan Singer: is, but I know what you're talking
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. So, but there's, there's definitely numbers and numerology and, and symbols and signs, and that's how the universe speaks to us because I think that we come here with free will. [00:14:00] Nothing's given to us like so direct. We actually have to seek it.
We have to do that extra effort of noticing and paying attention to the signs. And I think that is freaking amazing. I mean, I never knew that story.
Susan Singer: I never
Michelle Oravitz: I'm blown away.
Susan Singer: it's
Michelle Oravitz: Blown away.
Susan Singer: it's, and it's now, you know, she's five and a half and it's, you know, she just, she's my li she's mine, she's perfect. Like exactly the way, you know, everything is, is mapped out and I, I just think the most important thing to mention is that is your journey.
This is, has nothing to do with anyone else, but your, you and your partner. And it's like if the, like I said, I was always just, you know, envious or ego you know, why isn't this happening? You know, we always, why isn't this happening to me? What is wrong with my body? It's okay. Maybe you need to get forti, get [00:15:00] acupuncture.
Maybe you need to eat better. Maybe you are using chemicals that, that you shouldn't be using, but you, you can clean all that up. But like you said, it's. It's just, it is what it is. Our existence is here with this path, and this is what's going on in our lives, in this world at this moment with, with fertility problems within, with women, and it's un and men men of
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: it's unfortunate, it's true. as I grow and I learn even with where my body is today, the importance of. Of the nervous system, the importance of sitting in the feminine energy, the importance of not, of being in your element and what is best for you and nothing about what other people are doing or the environment or what society is saying and just really honoring this because. path is your path. And it might go on for a year and it might go on for 10 years and you [00:16:00] might need 10 rounds of IVF. And you know what? After that and you have your baby, like, it doesn't matter. It's
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: matter because life
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: forward. So, and you know, you might, it's just, I just want everyone to know that. Like I said, it's like you're part of a community that you don't wanna be a part of and you're going through this process, but if you can come from it with love and with just a soul connection, you're, you're gonna be able to, actually enjoy and understand okay, that was something I needed to go through in my life and learn.
Michelle Oravitz: Absolutely. And I think one of the biggest misconceptions or sort of, um, misperception is that you have to suffer through this and you don't. And I can tell you, and I can tell you, I've seen so many patients and I've seen them going through the different stages and it is almost like different stages of brief where your first.[00:17:00]
Feeling it, and then you feel really bad, and then you go through resistance, and then eventually you just can't sustain that resistance and you end up surrendering. And sometimes you get tired or a little depressed before you get your energy back, and then you feel more flow. And this is when you really become conscious of every, you know, the whole process that's happening.
But I do see people finding peace before a baby. Then just subsequently, I think just because of the icing on the cake, they end up having the baby. And it comes in divine timing, like you said. And many times it's always in hindsight, when people do have the baby they're meant to have, they look back and they say, I wouldn't have changed a thing.
It's of course after everything, but then you don't have that exact baby that you have. And I've even had a woman, um. She has been trying to conceive. It was secondary. So she had her first baby and then it took like [00:18:00] six years. She was trying and she kept having miscarriages and even at one point she'd only conceive at certain times of the year.
So she actually avoided those times because she was afraid that she was gonna miscarry again. But she was still coming to me for acupuncture. So as you can see, she was kind of having this resistance within herself 'cause she wants to get pregnant, but then she's afraid. So one, she was seeing me for like a full year that next time she was coming into the fall season, which happens to be actually a time where a lot of people do conceive.
And I said, no, try this time. Allow yourself to try this time I'm here and I'll be supporting you. She's like, don't hold yourself back. And what do you know? She got pregnant. Kept the baby. Even her daughter was afraid to like let herself get excited, which is heartbreaking. But luckily she was sending me pictures with a big belly and she ended up having the baby, and now she has two kids.
But it's, it's crazy how like [00:19:00] the, the whole journey can take you to so many different places and those places are up and down and it really is, uh, it could be a very confusing journey, but ultimately I see a lot of people do get to the place of peace.
Susan Singer: Mm-hmm. And I do, I, you know, I never really knew about resistance. I never really understood that that, that that's like a big thing, that actually resistance is fear. You have to step through. There's something in like you're afraid to go on the other side.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: is courage. The other side is the light.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: realize, like she doesn't, didn't realize she was actually energetically resisting that. And it's just, it can be a big stop. It can be a big halt that you don't even realize you're doing. And I think, yeah, I think for me I was very much in, even though you know, it's so, even though I'm in all this feminine energy [00:20:00] and I knew I needed to calm my nervous system down and go through this whole, the whole process, I was still very masculine in my mind. And I wasn't able to connect the two of what was really going on in my body. And really, and I think the big thing is also trusting myself and trusting I had all the answers in me and I was just too scared to, I. Express them, or, you know, maybe I should have went with this other doctor instead of this doctor.
Or maybe if I really, truly believe that if I just did this one method, it would've worked, but yet I was listening to other people. I, I just think it's also, it's very important to be able to take the time and sit with yourself because your body knows, like you are, you
Michelle Oravitz: It's true a hundred percent.
Susan Singer: Have it all in you, and when you can come from that surrendering place and honoring it's, you know, again, easier said than done, but I do, I am aware [00:21:00] because I'm, you know, we're all always growing even after this and having my baby, it's like I can look back and be like, interesting if I would've just come at it this way. But was never gonna work because. It's divine timing. I was supposed
Michelle Oravitz: Yes.
Yep. It's so amazing. I mean, that is just like mind blowing
and it's such a great lesson. It's so poetic. Like it's crazy how life can be so poetic in that way.
Susan Singer: there's signs along the way.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: signs.
Michelle Oravitz: Well, I will say this. I am starting to think that I should write a book just about the stories that I'm hearing from my patients on the signs that they're getting.
It is pretty like. It's really mind blowing. I hear so many stories about signs people get for their spirit, babies, and I see such specific things happening that are basically [00:22:00] confirming that these signs are real. I mean, it's crazy. Like I like people even knowing the gender be like before they even conceive
and getting signs before like after Coming to me for a year and nothing happening, but also being on the journey for like sometimes five years. It's wild. It's really wild. And then kind of, it's confusing at first 'cause you're getting signs and you're not really seeing anything happen. But then eventually something does happen. And what's really crazy is I recently had a sign come to me myself, like my patient was telling me about these two things, two specific things I don't wanna mention yet 'cause she's still on the journey, but two specific symbols.
Or a name and a symbol. And she had mentioned that and she said that she saw it and it was pretty crazy. But then I'm driving and I literally within a minute, see the two and I was like, oh my God, I've never actually had the sign for my patient. Like it's never been something in my kind of like [00:23:00] world in my movie.
Susan Singer: That's amazing.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: It's so awesome.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. It really is. So tell us about what you're doing now, 'cause I know you're doing a lot of fun exciting
ventures and
endeavors.
Susan Singer: great how, everything comes back full circle. It's you know, whether you're, again, everything we just talked about with trying to conceive to the work that you are doing in the past to projects that you've created in the past and the loves that you've had in the past.
Everything again is signs. It's like unfolding.
So my biggest intention, and that's also big for the journey you might be on, is to really. Sit and have and understand your intentions and what you want. So my biggest intention when I moved to a new place at 40 was to find a group of like-minded women and really like soul led, like-minded women.
I'm very into connecting to source and I love having conversations [00:24:00] on spirituality, and I am coming from a place of abundance and higher selves and always having all those conversations you know, we ended up moving to Tennessee and then I had Natalia and then COVID happened, and then all this stuff.
Well fi like about four years after we moved and I had this intention. I was sitting around a table on my birthday and there was these women there and all like my, my new friends and I'm like, wow. It really happened. I actually made, I had such a, that was my biggest thing because for me, who I am and what my chart says, and everything I can see from now until who I am today, I am 45.
I, I see. What excites me is community is being around other women, and I was sitting around this table, I'm like. My community. It, it happened, it's here. Like this is amazing. And cut to, I was finally now getting out in the world and [00:25:00] I really wanted to get back into yoga and really start building the wellness community where I live. And I went to, I remember I was just locked in with my daughter because she was so young at this one time, and I finally decided to go to this networking event. I went to one. going to this one event, I met this woman who wanted, who learned about me, and she wanted me to be working with her. We wanted to do a retreat who then connected me with this other woman, and we were, we started a we did, we were chatting and we realized that we wanted to create a really powerful yoga biohacking inspired retreat, and we wanted to connect with Mother Deep, with Mother Nature, we called it gals off the grid. And that, and we did this one retreat, and then one of the women had other things going on so she can no longer do it. And this one gal, her and I just completely on such a level of our, we were just talking about our dreams and our visions and what we, [00:26:00] we've always wanted to build a community and have international retreats and connect deep with Mother Earth and learn all about that.
And my big thing was I wanted to do this with someone who. Really knew the body and really knew the feminine health, the way to health in a way that's very connected to Mother Earth. she happens to be a somatic practitioner on so many modalities, whether it's. Frequencies and tuning forks and tapping and reiki and just connecting intuitively to, she's certified in she's an epigenetics coach, so that's really profound and big.
So now her and I formed a business. We still have the name gals off the grid, and it's really a place for soul led women. To connect with really their, what your soul has been craving, where you know that you're on a mission to be bigger than you are. And we feel [00:27:00] that with the work that we've done, we have over 40 plus years of professional work together that we've created and then our own personal. Lives have got to where we are and we've created these six roots. Like we really hold gals off the grid as just imagining your fingers, your body just rooting into Mother Earth. So these pillars really focus on the dynamic of, and the essence of. If you can accomplish and really activate these six pillars in your life, will be that much closer to creating the life of your dreams, and you'll be able to activate your own roots. So our roots that we talk about are community, mind, body. Ancient wisdom, spirituality, like our ancestor, these, the indigenous people in our, in this world, the knowledge that they have. So really integrating ancient wisdom and modern science. Also, your intuition and your [00:28:00] awareness.
So being able to bring all of these pillars into your life. And UN and starting to understand them. We really teach you how to do that. So that's the main form of our community. And within that, we have a monthly membership where we guide you through these pillars. They're very seasonal. We work with the, with the wheel of our own life, with the new moon and the full moon and the
Michelle Oravitz: Love that.
Susan Singer: and getting her period and not getting it, and really the flow of the feminine energy.
So we bring that element into. Into the whole community. We have quarterly we have quarterly like retreats that you can do live in, in person. We have international retreats, we always have like the connection of somatic healing, where we're always doing when we're on our monthly calls, whether it's. or yoga or tapping or things to really ground you. And then we have like a library of all of these tools within the membership that you can always go [00:29:00] back to. So we're always busy. We got things going on, we're on
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. That's awesome.
Susan Singer: so much. So we're on the podcast, you know, walking and being able to just feel like, you know what?
I need a little more oomph today. Like, I'm
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: tap into my community. I said with, you know, being part of the fertility community is like, ah, you still don't wanna be a part of that, but here we are. Like this is
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: that will just light you up. And another big thing that was so powerful, I know for my co-founder with me is Valentina, is that feeling like you're not connected with people that understand you.
Like you're on a different frequency, you're elevated,
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: is on. You're trying to have a conversation, but no one's understanding what you're saying. Piece you're on, you're on a different radio station. That's what he was saying. I'm like, I feel
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: doesn't know what he I'm talking about because it's like you literally have to turn the radio station
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: you.
And
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah.
Susan Singer: it's this is where we are. Like, you're gonna hear us, you're gonna [00:30:00] be with us. We're gonna support you. Exactly. Like showing up to where you are. So it's, we're very. In the thick of things and creating these wonderful events for you. And it's just, it's like, it's exciting. So that's what I'm saying.
It's like community has always been around and try and just being with people that can help you and support you and guide you to live your, you know, highest life is, is why we created this community.
Michelle Oravitz: I love that. I absolutely love it, and I think that as humans we have so much potential. And I think that having that reflected and that energy and that soup of community can make such a difference because we reflect to each other to one another. First of all, what we see that might be a little different because.
We're drawn to things like that. It's because we feel within us, it's kind of like you were saying, you're like thirsting and craving. We feel within us that there's something more,
that there's something that more that we wanna see. And so when you're getting [00:31:00] minds together and hearts together, you could do, you can move mountains, I believe.
Susan Singer: Yeah, and women just having a circle of women together, the power of that. I have land out here and we do a lot of full moon ceremonies and forest bathing and
Michelle Oravitz: Love that.
Susan Singer: out on the land where we're literally connecting with. The Indians that have been there, we had a historian come to the land and hundreds of years ago, the Chickasaw Indians lived on that land.
Michelle Oravitz: Wow.
Susan Singer: day we did a forest bathing event. And really forest bathing is where you're just walking in meditation through nature and being like really quiet and still, and I was explaining to the group that was there. The Chickasaw Indians were here, and I was talking about somehow, I, I was talking about my fertility journey. I was wearing one of my beaded bracelets that my friend gave me while I was getting in the process of getting pregnant. And while I was talking [00:32:00] about it, my bracelet popped off
Michelle Oravitz: Wow.
Susan Singer: and it was
Michelle Oravitz: Was that moonstone by any chance?
Moonstone.
Susan Singer: No, it was, it was actually, oh, I forget the ki It was a white, it was a white stone. It was white beads. And then there was a, silver one, like, I forget the name of it, but so I
Michelle Oravitz: That's crazy.
Susan Singer: them in the o in the creek 'cause there's a creek on the land. And then everyone left and I felt this big pole to come back to the land. So I sat there by myself and I'm not joking. Like I felt the energy of the women on that land. I was crying and crying and crying, and I don't know why. I felt like I was shedding their tears. And ever since then, I've had a spirit guide with me.
One of the women that was on that land
Michelle Oravitz: Wow, that's amazing.
Susan Singer: has been by my side. And I feel like, And we had a [00:33:00] medium out there, like
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Susan Singer: intuitive woman out there, and she was like. They are so happy you're here to bring this energy and share it with other women and you are just doing like keep doing this.
You are a steward. Like we all are
Michelle Oravitz: Wow, that is so
powerful,
Susan Singer: on now, we're like it's, and that's what I mean. We're bringing back this indigenous this. We're understanding more the
Michelle Oravitz: the connection.
Susan Singer: we have with the land and mother earth, and that's just another part of fertility and it's just. that's what I say, like
Michelle Oravitz: Oh yeah.
Susan Singer: forming back and, and coming back full circle of the work that I did in the past to where I am today and it's just
Michelle Oravitz: Wow. That's so freaking cool. Susan. I'm telling you like I. This is amazing 'cause I'm so glad we connected. Like, it just brings me back to that initial connection that we had because connecting with your spirit, I really love your spirit. I, I feel like we've always had that soul [00:34:00] sister connection
from the beginning.
But this is so powerful. Like everything that you're telling me is so powerful and it speaks to me on so many levels because I always felt, you know, you know, I'm an artist and I'm also a healer. And I remember one person told me a long time ago, it was just somebody I actually learned Reiki one with.
'cause I was really intrigued by the healing aspect of just the body. And back then I was doing architecture and she said, you know, you're an artist, but you're also a healer. And she goes. The same energy. That comes through your hands to create is the same energy that comes through your hand to heal. And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.
And so I always felt like I was channeling some kind of goddess energy. And then it kind of dawned on me, I think a couple years back that it was guin. I could just kept feeling guin, who's the female? Goddess of compassion and fertility. Oh, look at that. Susan, just in case you guys are listening to [00:35:00] the podcast and not on the YouTube, she's showing me a Guan deck of cards.
Of course, of course. I mean, obviously, so what's crazy is I felt her, and I feel her through my art and I feel her through my work, and I feel a lot of like heart centered. I feel like my heart connects with my patients as I'm treating them. And I remember. Energy Medicine by Jill Blake Way. She talks about that and she talks about how the heart coherence really makes that connection.
So my point is, as I had a reading with, I'm trying to, oh my gosh, I'm so bad with names these days. Um, I had, oh, Dana. She's a, she's a intuitive and Dana Childs. I had to say her name. I have to give her the credit. So Dana Childs gave me a reading and the first thing that comes out of her mouth, and I have not talked about Guan to anybody.
She goes, first thing that comes up is Guan. She works with you. And I was like, I know. I know she does. How do you know? [00:36:00] But I guess, you know, 'cause you're connected. It was really crazy. So anyhow, I totally get that whole thing. I literally feel guided by her. I feel the love in my heart with her. It's wild.
Wild.
Susan Singer: I know.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. Pretty cool stuff. So how can people, first of all, I'm just so happy you're here. But how can people find you? How can people find out about your membership, like what you're doing, your podcast? All of it.
Susan Singer: So if you're still interested in maybe hearing more about my fertility journey and who I've had on my podcast, that's still live, so that's Goddess Mama Fertility. then everything today that's going on is gals off the grid.com and you can go to our Instagram at gals off the grid.com and we are, that's the best way to get to find out about everything that we're doing.
We have on summer solstice, we're doing a amazing, it's a rooted. Soul body [00:37:00] activation. And so it's like a class that we're doing online. You can grab it on the go and that really helps you understand we're all about and moving into if you're interested into the monthly membership that we have.
So yeah, the Summer SOLs is so great to have that. And it's cool because since we're, we kind of say we're, we're gals off the grid, we're kind of off the grid. We don't necessarily so much wanna be online. So to learn more about what we're doing, it's great to connect with us in that way and send your email so you can have first dibs on learning about all of our different retreats and all the events that we're having.
And yeah, you can find all of that out on Gals off the grid and it would just be wonderful. And I am always here for anyone that wants to talk about their journey and where they are today. I am an open book and I love to share and I love to guide and help people. I feel like that's. Again, through my own heart of, of how I can give back and just a huge part of my, of my soul's [00:38:00] purpose.
And thank
Michelle Oravitz: I love that.
Susan Singer: for being, for us to be doing
Michelle Oravitz: Yes.
Susan Singer: great to see you.
Michelle Oravitz: It's about time. It's been too long. So I'm really happy to have you back. And you guys, if you ever want check out her first episode. Uh, Susan's first episode on, uh, episode three of this podcast were on like 300 and something. I mean, yeah. So she basically was like the beginning, the, the.
Early the, the original.
Susan Singer: Yeah.
Michelle Oravitz: So Susan, this is amazing. I knew it was gonna be amazing, but it exceeded my amazing expectations. So thank you so much for coming on today.
Susan Singer: Thank you for having me.
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